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John Bolton  |  
 25-Sep-08   20:14:49 Date
Message Gentlemen,

I have a confession to make.

Today I had a sexual encounter with a male!

I'm sorry, I couldn't help myself, I just had to find out! As he inserted his finger, I said to him "Will you still respect me in the morning?" And he said "Yes". Then he said "It's as smooth as a baby's bum". Nicer words I couldn't have wished for.

But..............Respect me hell, the bastard gave me a bill for $135......and I thought he was supposed to pay me!?

He also agreed that a low PSA is not necessarily a positive KPI (to use the football vernacular) and we've agreed to meet again sometime in the future if my PSA rises from it's currently low of 1.7.

Now, if you haven't got your fingers out of your @rses to make room for a doctors, I strongly suggest that you do. I refer you back to the communications that we had about two months ago suggesting that anecdotal evidence is that if you were in Vietnam waters you are 7 times more likely to get prostate cancer.

Yeah, it's uncomfortable (don't know what they see in it myself!), but ask your wife how uncomfortable a PAP smear is.

Now that you've stopped laughing, get you finger outa your @rse, and make that appointment!

John Bolton

'Sam' Trigge  |  
 19-Sep-08   12:30:46 Date
Message I heard a whisper recently that the DFRDB indexation had changed from CPI to something more favourable to us.

I cannot find anything 'official' on this. Has anyone else any info?

Bill Nitz  |  
0887234343 / 0439816074
 18-Aug-08   18:51:36 Date
Message Hi guys, I badly need some help in regard to a small inboard marine diesel. Would be very grateful to hear from anyone that may know of the availability of a Yanmar model#PMX6 or a PMX8 single cylinder, crank start. Perhaps there may be one buried in Pussers stores. Alternately would
like to hear from anyone that may know of a small,up to 10hp, inboard diesel. There are probably hundreds scattered around the country but finding one is proving to be a problem.PS. If anyone knows who took my boat out and cooked the engine please shoot the bastard!!!

Skip Hire  |  
 28-Jul-08   10:46:19 Date
Message Hi. I just found your site on Ask Web Search. Very nice. I will be stopping back again soon.

Tony Ireland  |  
 28-Jul-08   03:48:12 Date
Message Thanks very much for the back-up Rod, With your medical expertise you have phrased it so much better than I could have ever done. There are so many cases of prostate cancer caused by contaminated water (that's the DVAs and the VVAs conclusion) that it is horrific. I am trying to find out how the incidence rate of cancer in ex-pussers on the gunline stacks against the civvy rates, but I'm not having much luck. The last approximation I got from the VVA was "seven times more likely to develop a cancer than a civvy." If this is so, then that is outrageous and it should be publicised asap to warn all ex-servicemen. I think it will be left to us to pass the word, I'm not waiting for any Government department to do the right thing. Never happen!
Thanks again Rod.
Thanks guys.

Tony Ireland  |  
 28-Jul-08   03:31:59 Date
Message Hi again guys. To answer Damien. from what I have been told by the VVA and also from the DVA, the ex-Sydney boys are much more prone to various cancers due to the fact that the water we took on in Vungers was badly contaminated by good old Agent Orange. This water was in the tanks, vaps, the lot, and was actually condensed over a period of time and stayed with us. This was the most carcinogenic stuff ever, and the crews of the old Vung Tau ferry and her escorts have a much higher cancer rate than anyone else.
The high incidence of prostate cancer as well as bone cancer has been ackowledged by the DVA, and ALL ex-pussers in that situation should be very aware and take steps to ensure they are ok.
I have come across a lot of guys who seem to think that a yearly PSA test is the be-all and end-all of a health check, and I have to give these guys the good oil.
If this info saves one bloke from this insidious disease, then I'm happy.
Thanks guys,

Peter Maher  |  
 27-Jul-08   11:05:35 Date
Message Dear Peter,

Could I reinforce what Irish has written in his E-mail below. I have no specific medical explanation exactly ( DVA does accept an agent orange derivative relationship) why his comments are so important and no one has done a scientific analysis to support them. But, the anecdotal evidence is now so strong that I can only support his comments. So much so that as the Principal Medical Officer on HMAS Sydney 1972, a Medical Officer on an escort 1969, and the M.O. on Hobart 1970 and some one with fully blown Prostate Cancer at 58 years I fall precisely into exactly the same group; as well as having had a normal PSA the whole while. My only salvation was a Urologist who thought as a Vietnam Vet I must have a biopsy to be absolutely certain and hence my prostate and I parted company before the cancer had spread beyond the outer linings of the body of the prostate.

So, the take home message is go and see your LMO and demand to be sent to see a Urologist for a fully blown test and prostate biopsy. If you have to pay as I did back then, too bad. I'm not now going to be carried off boxed by that ailment. You may not feel too fussed about these suggestions but your family and friends will be grateful. Your wives have had babies for crying out loud this is a walk in the park.

Good luck!

Thank you for the opportunity to add some thoughts to your positive stance.



RSL NSW State Vice President Southern Country
Tel 02-93808774
Mob. 0417604450

Damian Petrie  |  
07 3857 2318
 27-Jul-08   10:01:06 Date
Message I just wanted to ask Tony Ireland why Sydney sailors are more vunerable to prostrate cancer?

Tony Ireland  |  
 25-Jul-08   13:27:41 Date
Message Hi guys.
The level of prostate cancer in ex-pussers is over the top, so get checked out properly especially if you were on the Sydney or her escorts in 'Nam. Do NOT rely on a PSA test, this is inconclusive, so don't end up in the same boat as me. I was told I had an enlarged prostate with my PSA being ok, and after 8 months of agony, and 2 PSA tests showing nothing, I finally had a specialist diagnosis and a biopsy, it was too late. Full blown terminal cancer. So for your own good get checked out yearly! It might be a worry, seeing the doc put the rubber glove on, but it is worth the hassle.
Pretty uncomfortable, but when you consider the alternative it's nothing.
It's great to find this site and seeing old oppos here, wish I hadn't taken so long!
Cheers guys.

Les Lever  |  
 21-Jul-08   07:52:35 Date
Message HI all, I had a visit with Ken Hughes at the Bunbury Nursing home today Sunday 20th July from 1130 to 1300.
Talked to Amy during the week and had rung the nursing home as well, so I organised a visit with Ken, in Amy's company.

Her most honourable Highness, Lady Dot Lever (she who commands my life) had worked there as an enrolled nurse back in the late eighties early nineties. Big surprise when I walked through the door to the place and here is one of her best friends during that period still working there.

Located Ken on a mobile bed/chair with Amy in attendance outside his room, but inside the building, looking out the sliding door which access's the outdoors garden/grassed area at the rear of the wing.

Ken still has a trachy in his throat so he cannot talk. This will stay until he has regained control of his swallow function
Ken has limited movement of his arms, but can touch his face, make a fist, and attempts to resist when asked to "arm wrestle".

I introduced myself, and went through a quick list of things we had been associated with.
Bought along a list of the "expression of interest names" for the Greenies reunion in Mildura Oct 2008 and went through the list and spoke a few names we had both shipped with.
Most of the names were greeted with a nod of recognition, but a few were given the shake of the head.

We lived a few doors away from each other in the same street for some years and on one visit to his house Ken told me that I was part of his claim for TPI with the psychiatrist.

Today I bought the psych' s name up and got a nod of recognition with his name. Amy showed me a little parrot doll he had received from this guy.
On the parrots belly it says press here so I did, first thing it did was whistle very loudly and then made a derisive comment about my looks, second press was another whistle and "why don't you f-ck off'" which caught the attention and a comment from the nurse two doors away, third press resulted in a louder whistle and " Hey Lady show us your tits" which got me a bit of a scowl, but as I pointed out it was the parrot not me.

When I mentioned the fact that Ken had told the psych that he used to get so pissed off with his forward radar crew he used to throw tools at them, and when I put my claim in for TPI I countered to the psych with I used to have a boss who used to throw tools at us, I received a crooked grin from Ken.

Where the trachy comes out of of his neck it has a filter to stop any solid matter getting down and it also helps warm the incoming air.
It gets blocked slightly very often and flies out if he happens to have a coughing fit.
It is rather daunting the first time you hear it happen, sort of like a miniature blow hole and the filter comes out and then the noise escapes.

Ken has a CD player so he can listen to music etc. I have just downloaded a heap of books from Audible.com and have them on my tom tom gps, and my computer.
Ideal for a long trip across the Nullabor or a week or two in hospital if you have limited use of your arms etc.

So if you can't get to visit, you can put a message onto something ad burn it to a CD/DVD and send it to him. If you can make it,
I am certain he would love to hear your voice, or send a movie, picture or such.

Amy is a very strong character and is extremely caring, but she admits there is a need for her to take a break from it all for a couple of days a week to recharge.

Ken Hughes
C\O Room 27
Bunbury Nursing Home
39 Hayes Street
Phone: 97215333. (Ken won't answer)

PS Ken said you can give me any money you have not paid him when you see me at the greenies reunion, not sure if he mentioned you specifically Mr McGurk or whether it was a cough through the trachy, sure sounded like it to me.

Cheers all
take care

LEMWR Les "Bull" Lever R65724
Waller Sep 66/75

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